Q: Credits. Claude 3.7 and Gemini 2.5 pro.
Hi, I'm still trying to work out what I'll use this for. I think the technology is quite advanced and will take 'user' without too much AI knowledge to get behind it. Somehow i think it will be very important in the future. Although its 'just a feeling'
If for example I paid for lifetime plan 4.
Would i need an external API to use Claude 3.7 and Gemini 2.5 ?
I'm trying to avoid additional costs on top of the lifetime payments.
Or would the 200,000 credits per month allow me to use Claude 3.7 and Gemini 2.5 without any API?
Or do the credits only allow users to use 'older' platforms ?
If you could help clarify as I appreciate you realise you're at the forefront of tech here and we don't 'get it' as yet :-)
Regards,
Peter.

SeanP_AgenticFlowAI
May 3, 2025A: TLDR: Your 200k monthly LTD credits cover platform usage (fixed cost per step) and our built-in efficient AI models (like GPT-4o-mini, Gemini 2.0 Flash). To use advanced/future models like Claude 3.7 or Gemini 2.5 Pro, you'll need to use Bring Your Own Key (BYOK) and pay the AI provider directly for that usage (AgenticFlow only charges the small fixed step cost then). This keeps the LTD sustainable for everyone long-term.
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Hey Peter,
Thanks for the thoughtful questions – and you're absolutely right, this AI agent tech is powerful, evolving fast, and it can feel complex to grasp fully at first! We appreciate you exploring it with us.
Let's clarify how credits work with different AI models, especially regarding your Tier 4 LTD and avoiding extra costs. Think of AgenticFlow Tier 4 like getting a powerful platform, maybe like a "Tesla," for a one-time price. You own the core system – the workflow engine, the agent capabilities, the MCP connections, the database – for life. Your 200,000 monthly credits are like the "included fuel" needed to run operations on this platform.
These included AgenticFlow credits specifically cover the fixed cost for every step the platform takes to run your agents and workflows, which is the basic operational overhead. They also cover the variable cost when you use the built-in, efficient AI models we provide directly, such as GPT-4o-mini and Gemini 2.0 Flash. We selected these because they are effective for many tasks and allow us to offer the LTD sustainably, ensuring your lifetime deal truly lasts.
Now, when it comes to accessing the absolute newest, cutting-edge models like a potential Claude 3.7 Sonnet or Gemini 2.5 Pro, these typically require using our Bring Your Own Key (BYOK) feature. Using BYOK means you connect your own API key directly from the provider, like Anthropic or Google. Accessing these specific premium models is not covered by your included AgenticFlow credits.
When you use BYOK for these advanced models, you pay the provider (Anthropic, Google) directly based on their usage rates. AgenticFlow, in this case, only charges the small fixed credit cost per step for using our platform to orchestrate the call; the cost of the AI model itself goes directly to your provider bill, not your AgenticFlow credits.
The reason for this distinction is economic sustainability. Offering unlimited access to the most advanced and often expensive AI models within the LTD credits isn't feasible long-term if we want to keep the platform running and improving for you indefinitely. The BYOK approach gives you the flexibility to tap into any model you choose, while your included credits power the platform itself and the very capable built-in model options for a wide range of tasks.
So, your 200,000 monthly credits provide substantial value for using the platform extensively with the integrated models. For the highest-end or future premium models, you'll leverage BYOK, controlling that specific cost directly with the AI provider.
Hope this makes the credit system and model access clearer! We're aiming for a transparent and sustainable approach.
Regards,
Sean
I also create web tools (Tooltilities) . com with traditional coding - and wonder what I could do here?
Hey Peter,
Since you already build web tools, AgenticFlow could let you quickly create AI-powered versions or new lead magnets without heavy AI coding. Think simple AI SEO tools (like a headline analyzer, keyword generator, or content brief creator) built visually here, then easily embedded right onto your Tooltilities site to capture leads or offer added value!